Ep. 205 | Savannah: Midnight in the Garden of Applesauce & Horsefeathers
Updated: Aug 23
If you go to Atlanta, the first question people ask you is, "What's your business?" In Macon they ask, "Where do you go to church?" In Augusta they ask your grandmother's maiden name. But in Savannah the first question people ask you is "What would you like to drink?”
~ John Berendt, Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil
Welcome to Savannah! (What does a pineapple have to do with anything?)
It's midnight in the Garden of Applesauce & Horsefeathers and the ladies discuss the good and the evil of Georgia's prettiest city.
Here's the Old Town Trolley map of Savannah! Oglethorpe really knew what he was doing when he planned out the city. And below this one is an illustrated map from www.happymondaycreative.com.
Christa has a history with the city of Savannah! She spent many a summer here as a kid and even moved there for a couple years as an adult. She just came across this diary entry from <year redacted>, before she'd even thought of moving to the city. Also pictured here are some shots of the grand opening of The Trolley Stop gift shop and a swan from Forsyth Park Fountain (thanks to Clover for the assist). Oh! And some celebrity autographs! Jane Powell, Siobhan Fallon Hogan, and James Cromwell.
P.S. Savannah was the only city in the south that Christa lived in. Hahaha!
Let's get uncomfortable...live in that space for a bit. Sage & Christa both think it's important to feel that and to learn (or unlearn) our history.
We've mentioned the Tulsa Massacre before on our podcast--you can read a lot more about what happened and get a first-person account in our blog on Lillian Gish.
Mentioned in this episode is a John Oliver segment where he takes a look at how the history of race in America is taught in schools, how we can make those teachings more accurate, and why it’s in everyone's best interest to understand the most realistic version of the past. Definitely worth a watch:
Here are some examples of the exact same textbook -- one from Texas, one from California -- and the subtle (and not-so-subtle) differences that shape what our students learn about this country.
One thing that definitely wasn't taught was the Weeping Time. To learn more about that, Pierce M. Butler, and his wife (revered British Shakespearean actress) Fanny Kemble, read this article:
If you visit Savannah, try and attend a service at the country's oldest continuous Black church. One thing that has changed since Christa was last in the city: you can now take tours specifically for Black heritage. There are 250 years of Black history in Savannah and it's good to see it in the spotlight.
And deep breath in...2...3...
We briefly mentioned Gullah Geechee and a few weeks later, we came across this Twitter thread. "The five line song sung by Amelia Dawley’s family is the longest African language text ever found in the U.S. And Dr. Lorenzo Dow Turner went on to create a new field of study by his work and an appreciation for a unique element of African-American culture." Click the tweet to read more--and they also provide you with a link to watch the documentary The Language You Cry In.
Christa & Ben are finally unpacking all their book boxes and trying to find places for the books. In that process, she found her old scrapbooks made by her grandmother and came across these gems from summers in Savannah:
Lots of Dead People's Houses. You can see Fudge on Fire bottom right (you can only just see the flame) and the colouring book ship is of the S.S. Savannah! Sadly, it looks as though The Pirates' House no longer serves Fudge on Fire. I think we're going to have to send them a STRONGLY worded letter. But here's a bit of history about the House, including some great pics.
Oh, speaking of The Pirates' House, remember this picture from our Ep. 202 blog on watches? Toldja it would come back! That's a boot glass from The Pirates' House...and it is as fun to drink out of as it looks.
Remember Emma Kelly from The Book and the Movie? (You know which one we're talking about; don't even pretend you don't.) She really was the Lady of 6,000 Songs. She used to play above The Pirates' House at Hannah's back in the day. Christa got to spend an evening there with her once. Oh, no! Sad news: The classy upstairs jazz club Hannah’s East never really recovered from Emma Kelly’s death in 2001 and now sits empty. That was written back in 2006, but it appears to be gone still. :( Sage & Christa are just going to have to make it big so they can bring Hannah's back!
But let's talk some Midnight, since you brought it up. (Tee-hee!)
Gets me every time. Hahahaha!
And on that note...
What'll you have to drink? Play some of these wonderful Johnny Mercer tunes while you sip, but make sure to...
Save SOME for next time, when we discuss Reconstruction and Reparations.
Cover Photo by Jose Llamas.
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